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Old Dec 01, 2010, 02:29 AM // 02:29   #321
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I think I can see much better what's going on when you draw stickmen instead of this.
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Old Dec 01, 2010, 06:40 AM // 06:40   #322
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See? Now you have the sketch done, you can't stop there!

(I'll understand if you don't have time to draw or finish it, just really curious to see what you'd come up with)
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Old Dec 01, 2010, 12:29 PM // 12:29   #323
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lol I actually might finish it at some point but not sure yet if I could make it to the workshop.

Speaking of things that need to get finished

This is what I decided to finish for now. I got this sketch lying around. It was supposed to be a second drawing for a guildie's bday (had a second idea when i was in the middle of this one http://roguemina.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d330jxa ) :

Now it has become a face study thing. I am using no references but I look at a book on anatomy and apply it in the drawing. As of last night, I was working on Mina's nose so there's still a lot of possible changes that can occur.

These characters tend to argue/fight a lot. Hence the pic.



And the less fierce looking Tzu sketch. I spent quite a bit of time figuring out what was wrong....I forgot the eyebrows at first!


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Old Dec 01, 2010, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #324
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Raven maybe its just me, but in the arguing one I see her as as kind of affectionately laughing at him, I guess because she is looking up under her lashes, if she was aggressive I would expect her chin to be up. and well, if she is laughing maybe the corners of her mouth could be tilted slightly. Does that make any sense?

Oh and the Tzu skecth is very nice, now she has 3 gorgeous pics ^^
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Old Dec 01, 2010, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #325
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Raven maybe its just me, but in the arguing one I see her as as kind of affectionately laughing at him, I guess because she is looking up under her lashes, if she was aggressive I would expect her chin to be up. and well, if she is laughing maybe the corners of her mouth could be tilted slightly. Does that make any sense?
I still haven't decided on her facial expression actually. Mina likes mocking him a lot, calling him a child and immature at times (yeah she can be a real b*tch if she wants to) that's why she's kinda grinning to imply that she wasn't threatened. Then there's another look that she can be glaring at him or something (which is what I had initially as well). So yeah we'll see how it goes towards the end. lol.
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 01:14 AM // 01:14   #326
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If I get some freetime this weekend, I'll see if I can upload a simple sheet on facial expressions we got from my anatomy class. Might be helpful for you.
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 01:21 AM // 01:21   #327
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If I get some freetime this weekend, I'll see if I can upload a simple sheet on facial expressions we got from my anatomy class. Might be helpful for you.
Charliepai, that would be great! <3<3<3
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 07:34 AM // 07:34   #328
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If I get some freetime this weekend, I'll see if I can upload a simple sheet on facial expressions we got from my anatomy class. Might be helpful for you.
Oh, I'd love to see that too! I'm pretty good at expressions, but only if I'm doing something cartoonish. Doing realistic expressions still eludes me...

@Ravenhawk: I really like the pic of them arguing! Lovely smooth shading, and it looks a touch more realistic than what you normally do.
The one thing that bothers me is that they both have rather small noses... for such a realistic drawing, their noses look like something out of manga. Perhaps make them slightly bigger? As it is, their chins look huge because there is no larger nose to balance it out.
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 12:34 PM // 12:34   #329
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Thanks Perynne! I made some fixes on the lips, chin and neck last night. Although I think the nose may still be a little small like you pointed out. lol. Tried to work a little on my mesmer's hands and dagger as well...added sleeves of her Rogue armor.



I haven't really worked on the ranger's face yet though. And yes he's a vamp too. Not sparkly though lol.


Also might stick with her grinning because that's a lot more like her personality. It would especially fit the tentative title I have for it : "Come Closer" ^^

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Old Dec 02, 2010, 08:16 PM // 20:16   #330
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Seems more balanced to me now. I think it may just have been the chin. Not sure if its just me because I'm really tired, but looks like the arm of your mesmer is coming out of her face? Hell maybe thats not an arm at all
Overall though she looks much better ^^
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #331
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lol thanks Frost. yeah not sure what to do with her hand yet..I am having a hard time figuring it out lol. She's supposed to be holding the dagger an angle or something..I might need to take a picture of myself doing the same pose. X_x
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Maybe this will help? Shes holding the dagger differently, but this would be the arm placement I'd find most natural for the pose. Elbow pointed down slightly more than this and the hand raised to reach his neck.
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ooh, looks good! I originally thought they were doing the dangerous flirty thing though D: You know, like in action movies where the girl threatens the guy and then suddenly they're making out -___-
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haha. those are always the best scenes
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 10:22 PM // 22:22   #335
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ooh, looks good! I originally thought they were doing the dangerous flirty thing though D: You know, like in action movies where the girl threatens the guy and then suddenly they're making out -___-
Haha, that's what I was kinda thinking too!
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Old Dec 02, 2010, 11:48 PM // 23:48   #336
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[email protected] guys! Well one of our guildies did call them the best non-couple couple. They do flirt sometimes to gain some advantage in their duels but it doesn't end up in a make out session =P lol Murke's character is having a hard time playing referee for those two. The only one who can successfully prevent them from biting each other's necks off is Samael's father (Vale) who is one of Mina's closest friends.

Yeah we got some pretty crazy characters >_>

@Frost --ooh nice image. I can play around with the angle of the arm I guess. Thanks!
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Old Dec 08, 2010, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #337
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Should be the final update for this piece.



Ranger vs Mesmer! Funny enough, I used my Illusionary Weeaponry build in my last duel.
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Well, as I mentioned, I don't really have time (or the will) to concentrate on a full drawing before Christmas now that my vacation is nearing. So decided to practice on speed painting. I got several fanart requests and currently working on those at a random basis.

These average about four hours I think. I might refine the Bayonetta one because I like how it turned out overall (plus, I like dark haired female chars with eyeglasses. Probably because I am one myself) and I can't stand those chains..it still bothers me lol but speed painting is speed painting XD.

There might be errors one the faces because I didn't use references for the poses/angle.

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Old Dec 16, 2010, 07:18 AM // 07:18   #339
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I know I'm about a week late, but I'll get the facial expressions posted sometime tomorrow. My last final is next morning and then I'm on break.
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Old Dec 17, 2010, 06:30 AM // 06:30   #340
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I know I'm about a week late, but I'll get the facial expressions posted sometime tomorrow. My last final is next morning and then I'm on break.
Sure Charlie! I will be on vacation next week so I probably wont be able to see it until after Christmas. Thank you

And sort of a pre-vacation parting gift for everyone, I decided to finish the Bayonetta drawing:

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